America: She's Turnin' Blue!
Yellow Blog Dog has posted a very interesting map, courtesy of survey USA. As you say to yourself, "hmm...what parts of the country are still in a hurricane of denial (no pun intended to my Louisiana readers) regarding the incredibly shitty job this president is doing on a daily basis?"
Well, look below for your answer.
Well, look below for your answer.
The map prompts 3 observations:
1. I have re-named New York, New Jersey, and Vermont as the "tri-state of intelligence." They now get 20 senators a piece, instead of 2.
2. I'm SO proud to live in the Northeastern United States of America. We'll be forming our own nation soon, so good luck getting great pizza or bagels in Nebraska.
3. Idaho and Utah - as your economic conditions worsen, your kids get sent off to a war because of lies, and your sister can't get the abortion she needs after you impregnate her for the third time - I will look at you, shrug, and continue through my day without a care in the world.
posted by Jeremy at 3:20 PM
21 Comments:
Hey there are Democrats and Nebraska. I just so happen to be one of them and, with the help of Chairman Dean and the DNC, We are working very hard to turn our red state blue.
So, Instead of making stupid east coast elistist comments how about coming to Nebraska during the midterm elections and helping us turn things around?
Actually I have several responses to this comment above.
1. First off, I apologize. I feel really bad for any liberals or progressives who live in Nebraska, Oklahoma, Idaho, Wyoming, or any other state that reminds me of the movie "Boys Don't Cry." If you're there to try and make change, I wish you good luck. Personally, I'd rather kill most of the people you live with than try to change them, but hey, that's just me.
2. I also didn't direct my statement toward you necessarily - but to your neighbors - your school board, and the guy who tail-gated you on the highway the other day because of your John Kerry sticker. Again, I applaud you for being a liberal Nebraskan, and hope you've found like-minded people to share thoughts with. I can't imagine the absolute morons with which you share space.
3. Nebraska will never, ever be blue again. In fact - any state that is shaded in some form of pink or red above, is so politically misguided - so decidedly lost and so completely unable to understand truth, fact, and righteousness, that Democrats should consider just walking away and saying, "we're going to pool our resources elsewhere - here are some free Cornhusker tickets and an apology note. Good luck with the whole 'science' thing."
Honestly - after everything that has happened - after WEEKLY revelations and discoveries made about this administration's complete raping of the Constitution, our military - the amount of times caught lying - everything - and your state is by and large still supporting this guy, how could you not agree with what I said above?
4. I've never been to Nebraska, so I admit, I shouldn't be making fun. I'm sure you have great culture including a diverse population that has amazing food, art, college towns, industries and beautiful oceanfront...errr, ponds. :-) I just have a feeling that your Brooklyn style pizza isn't as good as...Brooklyn's.
5. Finally -here's my deal, my new way of thinking, my latest revelation, if you will. I no longer place all or even most of the blame on Republican politicians. They're simply smart (yet evil) individuals who understand exactly how to brainwash and manipulate the American public into believing their lies, and their bullshit.
I now blame the people, almost 100%. Your parents, your neighbors, the douche bags at your office, the college Republicans on your campus - all of them. Our "fellow Americans." They should be our target, and we should be on them, every single day of every single week. No exceptions.
They are the ones who are not doing the research, not bothering to think, not bothering to act for the good of the people, not holding up their end of the deal, and I've just about fucking had it.
We owe these people nothing. It's time we stop reaching out to them unless we're doing so in order to assault them.
Thanks for your thoughts, and for visiting the site. :-)
nebraska's so flat that i don't care...is that what you are saying?
statements like this:
"any state that is shaded in some form of pink or red above is so politically misguided - so decidedly lost and so completely unable to understand truth, fact, and righteousness..."
make you sound really understanding...you aren't helping the situation you are further dividing us...what should we all move to canada or something????
No - we shouldn't all move to Canada, although I'd like to adopt some Canadian philosophy for our own country other than the mullet.
My statement about states shaded pink or red is directly reflective upon those who still support this administration...
So let me ask you - do you feel that those who are supporting torture, cuts in food stamps, using troops as media props, appointing cronies to high level national security positions, ignoring issues of poverty, race, gender equality, economic fairness, equal protection and privacy rights, religious freedom, freedom FROM organized religion, advocating for unjustified and illegal war - do you, in your honest opinion feel as if these supporters of these policies deserve ANY kind of understanding?
Would you rather try to reach out to them, compromise with them, get their input, and try to form some sort of union with their ideas and thoughts.
If you do - Joe Lieberman could use your help for his next campaign.
If you are like me - if you are TIRED of this bullshit. If you hear developing facts every single day that make you want to scream, and if you are absolutely disgusted with these people and their way of thinking - you are a Howard Dean Democrat, and you have balls, and you have teeth, and you're not going to sit back and take it anymore.
Which one are you?
I applaud your effort to turn your state blue, I sincerely do. I just think that if your state is STILL red and can't even join the ranks of South Carolina, Georgia and TEXAS - then you may have little hope, at least for the next several decades. Do you disagree?
Do you honestly think the Howard Dean Democrats are what this country wants ? Isn't it obvious that the way he handled himself cost him and anyone like him a chance at ever holding a public office of presidential magnitude.
Do you honestly think that your apparent hatred for anything not extreme left is going to fly well with the majority of American voters ? Your thoughts are far more extreme and hateful compared to Al Gore , and he couldn't even win his home state in 2000.
Asking for someone who shares views like you to ever hold office is as possible as Rush Limbaugh to hold an office.
Having your extremes define your party is no way to win elections. AS A conservative who takes offense to your site (because do you read what your writing ? How couldn't I , your whole point is to insult me right ?), yet read it for insight and laughs , I hope the rest of your party keeps this attitude up. You will never have congress or the presidency with this attitude.
No, I don't think Howard Dean is necessarily the answer for this country - I do think he provides a spark for the Democratic party that is sorely needed, as they have been absent in the last half-decade.
My hatred is for those things at are CONSERVATIVE. My web site is not designed to be friendly to conservatives such as yourself. Your current president and the values that he and his administration bring to this country are extremely irresponsible and corrupt, and anyone who stands for that should be completely ashamed.
I think extreme left or liberal or progressive values are something to be very proud of.
I’m glad you take offense to my site. It’s here for people like you to be offended and its time someone got in your face and told you so.
For you to be a conservative today you would have to hold to following values:
1. Honestly believe 100,000 Iraqi civilians and 2,500 dead (and over 10,000 more injured) US soldiers is an acceptable sacrifice for a war started on false premise and continuing on even more lies about the progress, status, and future of the conflict.
2. Have some sort of disdain for teach science in public school science class.
3. Have distain for scientific research that could help your own family members with Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, spinal injuries and other horrible afflictions because you’re more loyal to clusters of cells that will be discarded anyway than to your own parents and children.
4. Continue to think that your shiny American flag lapel gives you some sort of status on the Patriotic Hierarchy which allows you to deny rights and protections to people of color, gays & lesbians, and anyone else that doesn’t watch the 700 club on a daily basis...while at the same time ignore constitutional protections and rights that are being eroded daily.
5. Honestly think that those who suffered during Hurricane Katrina deserved it on some level because they didn’t evacuate in time, rather than understand the socioeconomic and cultural implications of what happened there
6. Think it’s ok for this administration to constantly close VA hospitals, underarm and undershield American troops with the proper armor in a war they shouldn’t even be fighting, while continually setting up fake town hall meetings with troops to use them as propaganda with carefully choreographed and scripted interviews, not get their insight or thoughts, but purely for PR gain.
7. Not really got bothered by the fact that we had so many terror alerts leading up to the ’04 elections, sometimes two or three a week – and we’ve had one or two in the year since.
8. Think that Clinton getting blown in the White House is impeachable and worth millions of tax dollars to investigate but outing and undercover CIA agent for political reasons who happens to be working on weapons of mass destruction – the very reason you’re having this war in the first place – isn’t really a big deal.
9. Continue to be the sorry, pathetic 36% of this country who still gets up every day – looks at the economy, the deficit, the spending bills that have never been vetoed, the tax cuts for the rich, the spying, the lying, the PR stunts, the death, the ignorance, the record vacation time, the raping of the English language, the complete deer in headlights look at press conferences…and say, “hey, this W fella is doing one hell of a job.
As long as there are people out there like you, I am motivated to take time out of my day – do research, read articles, look things up, fact check, create and edit images and work my ass of to have a web site that points out on a weekly basis how incredibly fucking harmful your ideas are to this country and it’s citizens on a daily basis.
I appreciate your loyal reading and thank you for visiting the site. Come back often :-)
Robin - do me a favor - click on the speak to me link and shoot me an email when you get a chance...
glad everything is so black and white in your world.
That 36% is now at 50%
Take another look at the economy, check those facts a little harder next time.
Clinton wasn't impeached for a blow job. It was the lying part under oath that did it.
I support stem cell reasearch. Like many conservatives. I still haven't found a President or politician who holds all of my beliefs, but that doesn't stop you.I am evil because I'm conservative.
Not all Conservatives fit into your cookie cutter. I'm a friggin' scientist who teaches science. I also believe in God, THE HORROR !!!!!!
No false premise used for the war there buddy. Look at Resolution 1441,687,678 and get back to us.
Taek a look at the recent UCLA study that shows bias in media is prevalent, and that the media is predominatly left leaning. Fox is the only one that leans to the right, other then the WSJ opinion journal.
How can you, a Bush supporter, talk about over simplification of complex issues. Things are not black and white in my world at all – remember, it’s YOUR president that has the “with us or against” us philosophy and continues to reject any criticism from ANYONE, especially those who served or were serving at the time in the military.
Look up Eric Shinseki and Wesley Clark when you get a chance.
Its true Bush’s approval rating has jumped about 10% to 47%, with 52% still disapproval. I congratulate him on his recent surge and hope he can get to the halfway mark soon.
Clinton was in fact impeached for lying under oath about sex. If you believe that was treason, bribery, or a high crime/misdemeanor that endangered national security, then we did the right thing. If you think millions of dollars for a witch hunt that turned up zero indictments leading to exposing a sex affair by an undersexed republican prosecutor was a little much, then you might be “on the extreme left.”
If you support stem cell research and you believe those areas of biology are important to our future quality of living and health care, then you voted against your best interest in the last election and continue to support a president who will make that quality of life – at least for now – more difficult. You should be ashamed.
There is no horror in believing in God. However, if you believe in the kind of God that is vengeful, and will cast spells on people in Pennsylvania because they rejected teaching religion in public science class as Pat Robertson – another powerful figure in your party – then that IS a horror.
And there absolutely was a false premise for war. UN resolutions were put in place for Iraq to cooperate with inspectors and disarm. That process was well underway with inspectors and most of the world pleading with the United States to give Iraq more time.
Do you know why we didn’t find any weapons in Iraq…hold on to your hat pal…BECAUSE THE INSPECTORS DESTROYED THEM.
Are you one of those lying Republicans that continue to insist that your leaders didn’t beg for this war over the premise that Saddam was hiding weapons and there were links between Iraq and 9/11, then suddenly flip flop on the issue to say we were there to remove a leader because he was mean to his people?
Tell me, what were the major justifications for going into Iraq, and then follow that up with what we’ve found since we’ve been there. I’m dying to know.
Also – if you think there is any liberal media bias I would point you to my media section on this web site to review the PIPA study. Then listen to some AM radio. Then listen to armed services radio. Then watch cable talk shows at night. Then tell me about the AP’s depiction of looting VS finding and tell me the skin color of the looters, and the finders. Then read my post about my experiment in watching the nightly news. The liberal media cry is old, it’s pathetic, and it couldn’t be more untrue.
Finally – I do paint conservatives with one brush because you keep voting for the same people. You can talk all you want about how you’re different, how you have black friends, how you support stem cell research, helping the poor, etc – but you KEEP VOTING AGAINST THOSE INTERESTS and as long as you do that, your opinions are fucking worthless.
Just out of curiosity Mr Science teacher...that UCLA study you just cited...were you referring to the one run by conservative think-tank funded Tim Groseclose...the fucking Republican Tim Groseclose? The same study that found that one of the most bias media outlets was that conservative Wall Street Journal? That's the study you're citing!
Everyone reading this take a moment to observe what conservatives like this guy and others do for their arguments.
They do indeed cite studies and fact in their speech - but their hope is that you will take what they cite as fact and truth, and not know anything about it.
When you dig further or when you are in fact familiar with what they're citing, the entire argument crumbles.
Case in point - Bill O'Reilly had a debate with a woman on his show recently about how gay marriage is crumbling societies in Europe.
He cited an example that the hetero marriage rate in Sweden has declined SHARPLY since gay marriage was legalized there."
A typical O'Reilly listener will hear this, believe it, and be more reinforced in his opinion about gay marriage due to this "fact."
However...unfortunately for Bill...there is no legal gay marriage in Sweden. They have domestic partnership (civil union) type laws in Sweden.
Since they've been enacted, marriage rates for people aged 15-64 years actually went up.
Does God frown upon lying? Or is he cool with that...
Did you blow a gasket ?
You are defining the party with what Bill O'Reilly says ? That could be part of your problem.
The UCLA study brings up alot of points, disect them if you want. It's not the only one that exists. If you want to disregard it because it's supported by a republican, go for it.That still doesn't deal with the findings.
Like I said, there isn't one person out there who also believes in everything I believe. So if that makes me a moron becuse I have to sacrifice some things for another when picking a candidate then fine. We are all idiots. I'm sure you voted for Kerry right ? Was he a mirror image of yourself ? You believed everything he believed ? You would have voted for the war too ? You wanted to oust Saddam as early as 97 too ?
Save your theory on why he voted for the war back then, I already heard it. You aren't bringing anything new here with this blog. It's the same hate thats all over the place.
The major justifications for war are the same as they were when they were being takled about since Clinton.Same as they were during operation Desert Fox. You remember right, the one you were probably protesting because Clinton bombed Iraq over 700 times without UN consent. Remember, the one he didn't even bother going to the security counsel about. He just bombed. Those reasons, plus the fact that we wanted to set up a democracy in the middle east after 911 to try to thwart terrorism by giving them some hope for something other then tyrants ruling their lives. Iraq was the place for that. All of the resolutiuons back up the War because whetther you believe it or not, Saddam wasn't complying.ANd it was laid out that he would be taken out if he didn't comply. We have found traces of WMD scattered across iraq and in roadside bombs. We have not found the stockpiles we were told about yet. We have found clues about them being moved into Syria. We have found paper work detailing how Saddam was still trying to get a nuke and chem program going.Iraqi scientists have come forward, we have found paper work. No one in the administration said Iraq was part of 911 , showing me a poll about how fox viewers believe that is not proof they did either. What they did say was, AL Queda and islamic jihadists in general had connections in and to Iraq. That is proven and more proof comes out every day.
Point is, we are fighting terrorism. If you don't want to fight them and keep acting like we are the enemy to the world, go for it. That idea and your blog is proof that you will not win elections. IF you want to define your party by extreme views, no red state "moron" is going to elect you. And you need those people. Or you could kill them, like you've suggested. Mature.It'll get you far.
also, don't forget .This War with Iraq was in the making in the pentagon for over 15 years or so.This isn't something the Bush just invented to get Oil for cheap .
Yeah, where is all this cheap oil ? Did Bush steal it all for himself and his buddies ? Are they down in Crawford doing Oil Barrel Stands while firing off their guns and eating babies ?
The truth is. AS soon as we figured out that putting Saddam into power back in the 80's was one of the worst mistakes ever made , we've been trying to get him outta power. No opportunity was better then the present. If we would have been attacked in the future by Saddam , you would have been blaming Bush for not taking him out. Just like you blame Bush for 911.
I don't even need to get into the inactions of Clinton on terrorism that lead to 911. You're gonna tell me they are all wrong right ? And before you go there, Bush could have seen the signs prior too. The fact is, we were lazy as a country.Too cocky to thinnk someone could attack us. Everyone looked the other way at the warning signs. If you believe it is all Bush, or the same goes for Conservatives that believe it is all Clinton. They and you need to take the blinders off. Action needs to be taken. And thats what happened. It's better then your ideas on how to handle terrorism. WHich I don't see any ideas on this site. Just condemnation and obstructionism. What are your plans ? Maybe you should work on a strategy rather then blast those who have one that you don;t agree with. Counter it with something. I'll listen. Not all conservatives are close minded automatons. Even if you insult me on every single blog. It's cool. We're all adults here.
I don't care if gay people get married either. GO for it.And just because I voted for some one who doesn't agree with me, doesn't mean I voted for the wrong guy. Refer to my "No one out there reflects 100% of my opinion, and thats OK" thread.
Anonymous:
You’ve said a lot here so I think I’m going to have to paste your statements in order to respond. I expect a gift certificate for some kind of hand massage from you due to the furious typing and time spent trying to convince you of things you should be figuring out for yourself
Ok, here goes.
“You are defining the party with what Bill O'Reilly says ? That could be part of your problem.”
No. Not at all. I citing an example of another conservative and linking his tactic with yours. In other words, I was pointing out how conservatives argue their points to their mindless, sheep-like base. You make an argument and cite it with a bogus fact, inaccurate research or whatever, and expect the person you’re speaking with to be too lazy to find out that what you’ve cited not only doesn’t support your argument, but actually wholly undermines it.
“The UCLA study brings up a lot of points, dissect them if you want. It's not the only one that exists. If you want to disregard it because it's supported by a republican, go for it. That still doesn't deal with the findings.”
This is true, it does bring up a lot of points – it’s a fairly new study and I haven’t read through the whole thing – I just know it exists, I know the names of the people who ran it (one guy was an economist from U of M I think and was like a GOP fundraiser).
There are also studies on bias, like the PIPA study, that clearly show that not only is there a lot of conservative media bias but that type of bias that concurs with conservative values – very pro-war, anti-global community, easily persuaded and lacking a basic knowledge of the Middle East – is very dangerous.
I’d also like to say that this argument is so ridiculous, so overplayed, and such a trite battle cry from conservatives, it’s probably the one argument that infuriates me more than the rest these days (hence my gasket blowing – but then again, this is RAGE against the right, not, “LetsBowToRightWingBullshit.com”).
The media doesn’t have a liberal bias – nor does it really have much of a conservative bias. They have a SCANDAL bias. They have a GET IT FIRST bias. They have a CONTROVERSY bias. They have a SEX SELLS bias. They have a VIOLENCE bias.
Do you remember, during the Clinton years, flipping on your television and opening the paper to read or see coverage regarding bill Clinton’s affair with an intern. Do you remember coverage about that? Do you remember the no-war-for-monica coverage, the sales of the movie Wag the Dog going through the roof – even airing on one of the cable networks?
Those stories, believe it or not didn’t make Clinton look too good. If the media had a large liberal bias, why not sweep that stuff under the rug?
Because it sells papers my friend. So do dead American soldiers. Its unfortunate but it’s true.
Also, when you look at the big picture of media – the 5 companies that own almost everything including Rupert Murdoch’s, you’ll really see where a lot of media censorship and bias have come from.
Do you realize that the ONLY time the press corps really started to ask tough questions – in front of the W.H. Press secretary, on the ground or on the Sunday morning talk shows – was during Hurricane Katrina? That those on the left stood up and applauded the media for the first time in years because it was the first time since 9/11 the media actually started getting tough with this administration?
Considering the ‘fake’ media appearances – rallies with signatures supporting the president needed in order to attend – fake town hall meetings – fake reporters writing for newspapers and reporting stories in television media…fake White House press corps reporters…the entire Sinclair debacle in the past few years – cable news switching from anchors to models reading teleprompters – FCC censorship – considering all of this – do you really need a Study from the University of Maryland or UCLA to tell you anything about the current state of your media?
"whetther you believe it or not, Saddam wasn't complying.ANd it was laid out that he would be taken out if he didn't comply. We have found traces of WMD scattered across iraq and in roadside bombs."
You’re incorrect. You’re 100% incorrect. Saddam was complying to the point where weapons inspectors were making progress and requested more time. They were not finding the weapons that we all thought were there, and they were destroying the ones they were finding. They were destroying Al Samoud missiles that exceeded the range set forth by UNSCR 1441. They were not finding chemical weapons. Remember, THE ONES THE REGAN ADMINISTRATION SOLD TO THEM.
They were not finding biological weapons. Remember, the ONES THE REGAN ADMINISTRATION SOLD TO THEM.
You’re also incorrect about traces of WMD’s scattered across Iraq. We have not found any biological or chemical weapons other than half empty containers carrying some old weapons from the Iran Iraq war – the war we backed and supported financially and militarily. Again, in the Regan administration.
The soldiers who found these small traces had some nausea and watery eyes. If you are supporting a war that has killed over 100,000 people due to nausea and watery eyes, that is absolutely your choice. But I have the right to call you an asshole if you do.
"Iraq had some of the most progressive Sunni Muslim control – albeit under a tyrannical dictator and the brutal Baathist leaders – of any Middle Eastern nation."
are you fucking kidding me...are you going to breeze by that point like it doesn't have any relevance??
And don’t even go near Bill Clinton. He stopped more terrorist attacks (the Millennium plot, Project Bojinka, attacks on the GW Bridge, etc) than Bush EVER has
Fucking A right!!!
Clinton - 169 stopped terrorists attacks
Bush - 0
this is unbelievable. This will be my last post. I'll let you wallow in your little progressive Utopian world of lies. You totally took what I said on some points and spun them as if I was Bill O'friggin'reilly making them. You weren't listening and avoided all points that didn't fit into your regurgitated responses that you learned over as Daily Kos and Democratic underground. You're a lemming. You are just a pawn here.
You've totally missed the point of the War on terrorism .You've totally looked at one side of Clintons history on terrorism and ignored all of the warnign signs that lead us to where we are at. Yes, Reagan, and Bush 1 lead us here too.Don't want to give you the wrong impression here. Not just blaming Clinton, like you believe , I'm blaming years of incompetance from people from many political mindsets. I think you need to step away from the polarizing of issues and deal with whats at hand. There is a war going on. A war we didn't start. Whether you like it or not. No matter how much you deny it , Islamic fundamentalists want you dead. The War in Iraq is also the war on terrorism. Terrorism existed in Iraq priot to 911. There is proof of that. Though we didn't find stockpiles of WMD in Iraq YET, I stress YET, they existed. We have found traces. We found enough Sarin gas in one roadside bomb to kill over 30,000 people. Gallons of it man, Why would I make this up ? Point being, we ARE fighting terrorism, in Iraq, Afghansitan, Here at home. Our actions to terrorism has stopped many nations including Libya to stop Nuke programs and opened up paths for Democracy in many nations in the middle east. We are fighting a war and making head way, nothing you type here will stop this.
I'd like to respond to your most recent comments without reaching through my monitor and strangling you. I'll do my best...wish me luck.
First let me say this about your first sentence regarding Utopian world of lies. Progressives spend half their arguments with conservatives dismantling your stunning collection of bullshit, and the other half trying to figure out how people could be so stupid as to believe it. Conservatives lie so much on a daily basis I often find myself picking my battles and selecting the lies I want to dismantle first before even continuing the conversation.
With that said:
1. First off I didn't spin anything you said - although I notice you're speaking about Bill O'Reilly in a pejorative sense, and I'm getting the feeling you don't take him quite seriously. In all honestly, I applaud you for that.
OReilly and I went to the same college and I know someone through a friend who knows him VERY well. The guy is a jackass, a liar, and honest to Christ, seeing him on the street would make me contemplate whether or not it was worth a few days in jail and a large fine just to kick his ass in public.
2. Considering the blind faith some Republicans have in the president - and considering the regurgitation of quotes from right wing media sources, bumper sticker slogans from this administration, -(see: "we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here," also see "they hate us for our freedom")...fake news reports from this administration, fake town hall meetings, etc etc..the fact that you could call any liberal a lemming is so opposite of what is going on, I honestly believe...without even being sarcastic...I truly believe you're totally lost, not paying attention, or not smart enough to observe or comprehend the politcal trend in America today. I really believe that.
3. I totally agree that we did the right thing by invading Afghanistan and overthrowing the Taliban. Your war-on-drugs sector of the Right Wing must be upset that it's now producing more poppy product than ever..but I don't care..getting rid of that "government" was a huge positive step in the war on terror, and almost every liberal I know supported it.
4. Clinton was not perfect regarding the war on terrorism. By no means. He made mistakes and I would never for one second suggest he did not.
What I am saying anonymous, is that he took it seriously. Between he, Richard Clark and Sandy Berger, Osama Bin Laden and other terrorist leaders/organizations were much on their radar screen.
Do you know who the head of counterterrorism was before 9/11? It was Dick Cheney. Do you know how many meetings his group held from the day they arrived in office to 9/11? Zero.
Do you know Condi Rice was scheduled to make a speech on the morning of 9/11? Do you know what her speech was about? Missile defense. Do you know that speech is now classified, despite the fact that Condi was going to deliver it to the public that day?
Do you know that the outgoing administration warned the new Bush administration that they'd spend more time on Al Qaeda than anything else?
Do you realize the 9/11 commission praised the actions of the Clinton administration's handling of the Millennium plot, and wrote in their report that the FBI/CIA and other federal agencies completely fucked up in entirely different ways since Clinton's administration stopped that event?
Do you know the 9/11 commission pointed out 10 separate instances in which the 9/11 plans could have been foiled or acted upon, and Bush's administration owned 60% of those chances?
Do you know the 9/11 commission just issued a report 2 weeks ago saying that the recommendations and suggestions they made aren't, for the most part, being moved on, and this administration gets an F for that?
Did you know that the negotiations for Libya to start disarming begin by using the "carrot" instead of the stick during the Clinton administration?
Either you don't know these facts, or you're not intelligent enough to understand what they mean...believe me - you can look them up yourself, because you're not going to see this shit in the "liberal media."
My web site exists to point these facts out to anyone who wants to research it on their own. Thousands of other liberal web sites do the same, and the webmasters including myself get comments here and emails on a weekly basis agreeing with us, praising us, or saying things like "I can't wait to pass this on to friends."
You on the other hand have come here and completely reeled off a steaming pile of fabricated bullshit that you heard this past year on the Sean Hannity radio show.
You're welcome to email me or continue to post here. I have more facts of yours to BOTH agree with and to squash with truth. If not, the pleasure was all mine to show your Right Wing ass how far it needs to come in order to really understand what you see in the main stream media each day - not the missing white teens or the runaway brides - you know - all that liberal stuff - but the other stuff. :-)
okay. just because some one is a conservative, doesn't mean that they agree with the Bush administration. Kerry and Clinton had great points to make, but Bush did too. It's just your view on things...and which points are better than others.
How did Bush get re-elected? The same way Clinton got re-elected. by having more people agree with their views.
So please. PLEASE!!!!! cut it out with it being Bush's fault for not protecting America against 9-11. Es so not his fault. How could he possibly know...or possibly stop it from happening?? Things like this happen in today's world...so GET OVER IT!
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