New Abu Grab-Ass Pictures
An overweight, drug addicted conservative talk show host once said that the torture at Abu Gharib was “pretty thoughtful,” “pretty effective,” a "fraternety prank," and a “brilliant maneuver.” Oh, and, one for the ladies, “I think the reaction to the stupid torture is an example of the feminization of this country.” Certainly the attitude you’d expect from someone thrice divorced.
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Take a look at some of these photos (or go to links on this page) and let me know if you think this was a thoughtful prank:
Now that new photos from 2003 have been released to the media in Australia, Limbaugh, along with other faux-conservative Bush supporters continue to point out two incredibly alarming myths:
1). What occurred in Abu-Gharib would not constitute as torture.
Unfortunately Rush, this is a lie. No oxycontin for you.
The mere fact that our Attorney General has authored documents legally allowing torture, our Secretary of Defense has authorized inhumane treatment of prisoners in a document, our government is exporting our prisoners to governments known for torture, we’ve been holding detainees without a right to legal council, high ranking military officials have claimed we’re covering up the abuse, and that President Bush himself issued a signing statement declaring he didn’t have to abide by the McCain anti-torture bill, should give you reason to not totally shut out the idea that our government might be torturing prisoners in a 3rd world nation (you can read the reaction from individual nations to the Abu-Gharib scandal here).
Bush-supporters aren’t into the whole “fact” thing however, so luckily for them we have other accounts, details, and photographic evidence of torture at the Iraqi prison – even by standards set by Alberto Gonzalas.
Oh, and if rape with glowsticks doesn’t do it for you, feel free to read documented cases of prisoner death here, not just at Abu Ghraib, but at other Iraq/Afghanistan detention centers operated by U.S. military. Despite all of this, and despite calls from retired military brass, none of the abuse allegations have been independently investigated.
2). Even if we have evidence of torture, we’re using it on terrorists so it’s ok.
Approximately 90% of those incarcerated at Abu Gharib are entirely innocent, grabbed off of the street and released months later with no explanation or accusations against them, not just according to the Red Cross, but the Pentagon. The proof of this is that we released 75-90% of the prisoners at Abu Ghraib after the scandal initially broke.
However – news has surfaced today that might prove this theory wrong, much to the relief of the Bush supporters perpetuating the myth.
(Click for audio: )
Take a look at some of these photos (or go to links on this page) and let me know if you think this was a thoughtful prank:
Now that new photos from 2003 have been released to the media in Australia, Limbaugh, along with other faux-conservative Bush supporters continue to point out two incredibly alarming myths:
1). What occurred in Abu-Gharib would not constitute as torture.
Unfortunately Rush, this is a lie. No oxycontin for you.
The mere fact that our Attorney General has authored documents legally allowing torture, our Secretary of Defense has authorized inhumane treatment of prisoners in a document, our government is exporting our prisoners to governments known for torture, we’ve been holding detainees without a right to legal council, high ranking military officials have claimed we’re covering up the abuse, and that President Bush himself issued a signing statement declaring he didn’t have to abide by the McCain anti-torture bill, should give you reason to not totally shut out the idea that our government might be torturing prisoners in a 3rd world nation (you can read the reaction from individual nations to the Abu-Gharib scandal here).
Bush-supporters aren’t into the whole “fact” thing however, so luckily for them we have other accounts, details, and photographic evidence of torture at the Iraqi prison – even by standards set by Alberto Gonzalas.
The new classified military documents offer a chilling picture of what happened at Abu Ghraib - including detailed reports that U.S. troops and translators sodomized and raped Iraqi prisoners. The abuses took place at the Hard Site, a two-story cinder-block unit at the sprawling prison that housed Iraqi criminals and insurgents, not members of Al Qaeda or other terrorist organizations.
In one sworn statement, Kasim Mehaddi Hilas, detainee number 151108, said he witnessed a translator referred to only as Abu Hamid raping a teenage boy. "I saw Abu Hamid, who was wearing the military uniform, putting his dick in the little kid's ass," Hilas testified. "The kid was hurting very bad." A female soldier took pictures of the rape, Hilas said. During the Muslim holy period of Ramadan, Hilas saw Spc. Charles Graner Jr. and an unnamed "helper" tie a detainee to a bed around midnight. "They . . . inserted the phosphoric light in his ass, and he was yelling for God's help," the prisoner testified. Again, the same female soldier photographed the torture.
Oh, and if rape with glowsticks doesn’t do it for you, feel free to read documented cases of prisoner death here, not just at Abu Ghraib, but at other Iraq/Afghanistan detention centers operated by U.S. military. Despite all of this, and despite calls from retired military brass, none of the abuse allegations have been independently investigated.
2). Even if we have evidence of torture, we’re using it on terrorists so it’s ok.
Approximately 90% of those incarcerated at Abu Gharib are entirely innocent, grabbed off of the street and released months later with no explanation or accusations against them, not just according to the Red Cross, but the Pentagon. The proof of this is that we released 75-90% of the prisoners at Abu Ghraib after the scandal initially broke.
However – news has surfaced today that might prove this theory wrong, much to the relief of the Bush supporters perpetuating the myth.
American commanders in Iraq are expressing grave concerns that the overcrowded Abu Ghraib prison has become a breeding ground for extremist leaders and a school for terrorist foot soldiers.
The reason is that the confinement allows detainees to forge relationships and exchange lessons of combat against the United States and the new Iraqi government. "Abu Ghraib is a graduate-level training ground for the insurgency," said an American commander in Iraq.
We are clearly concerned about the potential for extremists and insurgents to use our detention facilities as recruiting and networking centers and are aggressively taking actions to disrupt their efforts," Lt. Col. Guy Rudisill, a spokesman for General Gardner, wrote in an e-mail exchange…(read on here).







4 Comments:
I love reading the mentally unbalanced rants from Liberal "Michael Moore"-ons who feel that they have any sort of reasonable grasp on reality. You are simply a group mentally and morally challenged idiots who feel that forcing someone to wear underwear over their eyes while dogs bark at them is torture while your greatest victory in your deranged little life is legalizing the torture, mutilation, and death of untold millions of babies since the atrocity of Roe vs. Wade was passed. You have NO evidence that 90% of those in Abu-Ghraib were innocent (if so, list your military sources) yet you look at the innocent life of an unborn child and feel that crushing it's skull is a choice a 14 year old should make without the knowledge of their parents. In your confused mind a 14 year old is so wise beyond their years that they can decide when life begins and whether or not they should commit MURDER. Yet this same 14 year old is so delicate and child-like that they have no business even speaking to a recruiter in school about the possibilities that military service could offer when they reach the age to join voluntarily. You have more compassion for the proven guilty like Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin than you do for a defenseless child living and waiting for its Creator endowed unalienable Right of Life (check the Declaration of Independence). You find a moral balance between the exalted killings you fight for and the condemnation of physical and mental stress placed on someone existing to destroy your very freedom to CHOOSE to kill these innocent victims. Lunacy. Pure lunacy. When it comes to war, your views are those of 10 years old playing kick the can in your backyard. Once your opponent gets caught, they get free room and board until the ‘game’ is over along with the right to spit, piss, vomit, and throw shit at the very soldier who fights on your side to defend YOUR rights and freedoms as an American. I've been to College and every frat house I've partied at has pictures and stories which make most of your photos look like the uncomfortable pranks and psychological tests your "evidence" really is. Go hug a tree and put condoms on bananas for 6 years old, just don't EVER try and defend this country. Leave that to the Military you brainwashed, liberally independent, moderately progressive, confused little mind.
so you think that Americans are idiots if they think torture is inhuman.You can say what you wish,that is the glory of the USA but what makes us any less of a terrorist then they are to do these horrific things to other human beings.
The problem with this country is people like you who think that what you sick friends do at frat parties can even come close to what we have done to these people.
I know that our soldiers have been made to carry out the horrific measures of Abu by Donald himself so who are we to judge them.I do not.I judge us for allowing Bush and Chaney to brainwash us to think that this is how our great America is cleaning up the world.
Who are we to make these decisions to torture people the way we have the past 8 years.To compare Abu and countless other atrocities to Roe vs Wave shows how ignorant us the American people have become.How desensitized we truly are.What makes the murder of Dilawar so sick to me is that we put boys in a position to torture another human and then punished them for doing as they were told to do.Now these men have to spend the rest of their lives remembering what they did in that cell.Their lives are gone they can never get a job without explaining what they have done they will never be whole again.So to the ones who will try and defend their actions why don't you sit for just a moment and try to grasp the pictures they will always have with them here in the great ole USA for the rest of their lives.These actions will never go away for them.It is so easy for us the none fighting American to watch countless bombings and say yes we are doing the right thing,but when you have this thought just think if it was your son or daughter or friend do you want them to come home with thoughts of countless murders on their souls marked forever by the things Mr.Bush in his cozy oval office chair has made them do and they did for duty and country.So does that make us any less of a terrorist then they are, then we say they are.So when you question the morality in what we have done just remember what if it was you Son beating a man so badly that if he were to have lived we would have had to take his legs because of the damage we inflicted.Is this really something you want him to live with to carry in his soul.
It quite simply comes down to this. If you are truly against "torture" then you should be against it at any level. Look in the mirror and truly ask yourself if your child or your sibling were being held by terrorists and the information for their safe return could only be obtained by torturing the captives, would you be against it then? If your answer is still yes then you are either a liar or a gutless coward. I want the people responsible for my safety to act as though their childrens lives are on the line at every turn, because everyone who died in the towers on 9/11 was someones child. The safety of our country should be left in the hands of people who are willing to do "whatever" it takes. They dont have the luxury of hindsight.
To the individuals who have posted comments on this board I would like to ask you one question, Have you ever served in the military, have you ever been placed in a position at which time you must take a life or have yours taken, have you watched a brother-in-arms fall at the mercy of a 12 year old boy bread for the purpose of DEATH? If you cannot ask these questions then, in all honesty, you have no place to indicate whether or not the means by which the CIA, FBI, or US military forces are considered torture.
For the last two individuals who have deemed the photographs of prisoners at Abu Ghrab as torture, you are out of your f**kin mind. Do you know that the US military forces all "Spec Ops", Black Ops, Delta Forces, Pararescue, Navy Seals, Army Rangers, and Green Berets to go through training courses that commit much more haneous physical acts such as sleep deprivation, starvation, breaking of any and all bones in the hands and upper thigh, introduction of hallucenogenic drugs, and other forms of torture including water boarding or out right drowning in the hopes that these individuals, if a time where to come, would be able to withstand the very means of torture from our most hated oppressors.
You think you can sit here and give your opinion on a subject that you have no facts to back up. How about you do this, you go to the military and serve your country and see some of the horrible events that have taken place before myself and others who take up arms and react accordingly to the situation in which we are placed.
Although I will completely agree with the 1st gentlemen that the events that took place and are depicted on this website are mere pranks that inevitably caused no harm whatsoever to the TERRORISTS that are being detained there.
I imagine the two individuals that I presume are extremely liberal in nature are sitting in some dorm room or at some university which is being paid for by none other than your parents; therefore, you have no foundation for the opinions that you have shared. You have simply listened to the radio and somehow, in your narrow mind, deemed it torture because the US is supposed to take on a huge burden or giving one shit about the people who are trying to harm us. If you two have never heard the term COLLATERAL DAMAGE than you definitely have no place dictating anything on this blog. If I am not mistaken that means you are saying that the 2,000 plus individuals who died on 9-11 are mere COLLATERAL DAMAGE.
As far as I am concerned, I am proud for serving my country and giving you the unfortunate ability to sit here and deem what is necessary for my brother-in-arms survival to be labeled "torture". How about you go look at the videos of the hundreds and thousands of children that are molested, raped, murdered, tortured, and even dismembered on a daily basis by the very people you are trying to defend.
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